Be wise. Be brave. Be tricky. ([info]slithytove) wrote,
@ 2008-09-30 04:52:00
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Current mood: aggravated

Yes, I know the stock market is crashing, but life still goes on.
Consumer Reports, No.1.

Unless you're an eremite on top of pole in the Syrian desert, you probably do consumer stuff. We buy stuff, we use services. I'm going to start reporting on stuff I've bought that has worked, or hasn't. It's only an N of one, but by god, it's my N. "Maybe this isn't the most important foxhole in the war, but I'm in it!"

First up: killing yellow jackets, aka hornets.

Google ways to kill yellow jackets, and you will probably hit this page, from the Alaska Outdoor Journal, which suggests that a trap that looks like this:



The web page airily reports that, "It only takes a day or two to wipe out nearly every yellow jacket in your area."

It doesn't work.

I don't know whether there's something about creationist, pro-life, pentecostal, moose-stinging, Matanuska Thunderfuck-smoking Alaskan yellow jackets that makes them susceptible to fish traps, but my local Prius-driving, Timbuk2-carrying Philly suburbs yellow jackets are utterly unimpressed.

I made a trap just like that photo, and tried it three times, within 1-3 feet of two active yellow jacket nests. Twice I got nothing. Once I got three yellow jackets. Once the fish was stolen by some four-pawed denizen of the night, probably a raccoon. Complete waste of time.

Similar idea, using a soda bottle and jam.

Also doesn't work.

What does work?

This:



About US$7 at my local Acme. Go out early in the morning, when it's still cool and the yellow jackets aren't active yet, get as close as you dare, and spray the whole thing in the hole. Check in a day or two, and if there is still activity, spray again. End of problem.

Pouring gasoline down the hole also works, and is cheaper, but when the hole is horizontal, in a bank, it can't be easily done, and if there are plantings nearby, they may be killed. BTW, don't light the gasoline, it's dangerous and unnecessary, the fumes alone do the job.


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[info]hominysnark
2008-09-30 10:42 am UTC (link)
don't light the gasoline, it's dangerous and unnecessary

But more spectacular.

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[info]slithytove
2008-09-30 11:02 am UTC (link)
Streets Lawns of Fire.

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pouring gasoline on the ground
[info]saint_monkey
2008-09-30 02:03 pm UTC (link)
Might also be considered a release by the EPA, so be careful where you advocate this method.

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[info]dagoski
2008-09-30 12:56 pm UTC (link)
I prefer chemical free means. I've found that telling gullible neighborhood children that the nest is in fact a pinata and given them sticks works pretty good too.

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[info]slithytove
2008-09-30 02:16 pm UTC (link)
Don't their parents object when the child is stunned by stings, wrapped in a shroud of paper, dragged underground, and, like Millicent Frastly, sacrificed to the Insect God?

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[info]lolotehe
2008-09-30 03:25 pm UTC (link)
You know what does work?

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[info]ruxpin_exe
2008-09-30 03:38 pm UTC (link)
yeah, I grew up on a farm and we used to have hornets nests all the time for some reason. Always used gas. Always lit it for fun. Always worked.

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[info]xaosenkosmos
2008-09-30 05:22 pm UTC (link)
Lighting the gas might actually help with the killing plantings bit, as most of the nasty goes up in beautiful smoke.

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[info]thoughtsdriftby
2008-09-30 06:11 pm UTC (link)
The layout is a bit off and it looks like they put soap in the water. A strip of bacon is fine but the greasy bait must reach into the water. Yellow-jackets tend to drown if it's set up correctly, but I haven't found any other wasp it will work for.
My usual rig is bacon over a stick across a coffee-can half full of water.

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[info]mistresshawk
2008-10-01 12:46 am UTC (link)
Pouring gasoline down the hole also works, and is cheaper

At today's gas prices? =D

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[info]slithytove
2008-10-01 01:38 am UTC (link)
Yeah, I thought about this. But it takes much less than a gallon to knock out a yellow jacket nest, and even a gallon is half the price of the Hot Shot spray.

And it will probably be always thus. I'm guessing that Hot Shot, like an awful lot of organic chemicals, is derived from hydrocarbon feedstocks, and will increase in price in proportion to oil prices.

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[info]greyvorfeed
2008-10-01 01:31 am UTC (link)
Pouring gasoline down the hole also works, and is cheaper, but when the hole is horizontal, in a bank, it can't be easily done, and if there are plantings nearby, they may be killed. BTW, don't light the gasoline, it's dangerous and unnecessary, the fumes alone do the job.

Some friends and I did this with a huge anthill, once. The ants had built it right in the driveway -- we're talking a three-foot-diameter monstrosity with several different entrances and an entire battalion of ants. We had tried everything else: Combat, ant motels, soap, even burying the top with a shovel. Ben finally poured a ton of gasoline in there, waited ten minutes to let it soak in, and lit it. It made an impressive *whumph*, and blackened the entire top of the anthill, but the next day the ants were still there. We eventually gave up and went around it for the rest of the year. New Mexico ants are tough.

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[info]thoughtsdriftby
2008-10-02 01:11 am UTC (link)
For ants try Cattle Dust (Permethrin).
It is a pesticide used on dairy and meat cattle (found at feed and grain stores). Just a little across their path gets tracked back a ways and starts killing ants in under 20 minutes. Indoors a pinch can be swept under a baseboard where a trail enters or exits to keep it away from children and pets. Much safer than spraying Raid or other wet chemicals about.

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